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Top 5 or so forums:candlepowerforums.com (my home away from home)gripes.comrushlimbaugh.comtop5.comilovedanfalcon.comalt.music.alternative (really!) ((technically a newsgroup, but what's the diff?)) (((my first love)))Fyi, I am a jclist outcast. I'm not proud nor ashamed, I am what I am. I joined this lovely forum not long after it came to be, perhaps to avenge my buddy Dan. In those days, it was one or the other; it was unPC to show allegiance to both forums. Is that still the case? Remember Melissa, one of the original admins here? Thanks to her, I threw away my computer.
WAAAAAA! Give me back my sandbox! :stamps foot:
I understand both sides of this, but really it should be ok to let some of us who preferred the SB to be private to express that and share why we won't be engaging at the same level we were before. The private SB built a fairly high level of trust without full privacy, other than security thru obscurity, that allowed some of us to share personal details or raise issues or have conversations that we didn't want to have out in the open for the whole world to see. I'm assuming that content here, even though it scrolls out of view eventually, can now be logged by searchbots. Some of us have actual internet stalkers, people who we know for a fact are tracking our identities across message boards. This is kind of a big deal but I realize that those situations are likely the exception rather than the rule so I'm not going to pitch a fit about that. However, this is no longer a community that's safe for me, and I'd imagine that's true for some other people who are members with their irl identities firmly attached to their internet personas here.
The privacy argument is flawed. If I registered a username "JCMan1" and sat here logged in all day, it likely wouldn't change the behavior of users. When we had a spam problem there were all sorts of names logged in at random times of the day and that never seemed to phase anyone.
Not much of a user anymore because I enjoy you people in person, so much more, but I still visit this site a lot.Good redesigns, GLX and I like the idea of the public shoutbox for all of the stated reasons. It doesn't make sense when the casual viewer looks at the sight and doesn't really know what the SB is. + people just tend to go off in there and I like the idea of them knowing that the eyes of the world are watching! Ceedub's right : Privacy is self directed. He is the teacher of that! xxxxoooo</semiannual post>
New topics down 43% on last month.New posts down 13% on last month.New members down 17% on last month.Page views up 64%Hardly a new level of engagement.
1) So called privacy on the interwebs is self-directed- you're as private as you choose to be.
If the administrators want this site to grow beyond a clique of catty regulars, they need to step out of that mode when some of your highest traffic people give you negative feedback. At the very least, it is user feedback.
Quote from: Bobblehead on 03-15-2013, 02:30pm but also we each want to use it the way we like best. Unfortunately that's not possible in a shared world. This is the format for this site. If you hate it, so be it. Right now "Barcade" is leading in the polls.
but also we each want to use it the way we like best.
Quote from: CeeDub on 03-15-2013, 02:49pmWAAAAAA! Give me back my sandbox! :stamps foot:So rather than try to understand glx's statement of pupose/direction for wired, you've made it all about you (again) Bobble. Hope you dont feel falconpunched.Binky, any reason you directed your remark to Bobble vs. glx?Because he assumed that I'd rise to the personal criticism and engage him in an argument?Perhaps he didn't realize that I put a significant amount of time and money into running this site. Or he's just an asshole. Either way, I'm not going to do it.
WAAAAAA! Give me back my sandbox! :stamps foot:So rather than try to understand glx's statement of pupose/direction for wired, you've made it all about you (again) Bobble. Hope you dont feel falconpunched.Binky, any reason you directed your remark to Bobble vs. glx?
From the admin who rarely takes sides on things anymore... A dose of reality.The public SB isn't going away. Since we moved to it, engagement with the site has drastically increased.This site suffers from an identity crisis. It's used by some as a haven from JCList when they piss off Dan Prussack, then whatever issue they have passes and they're chased off back there.It's time for something to change. The admins put a lot of work into making this site what it is and the intended use case for it isn't the ~8 people who use the Shoutbox on a daily basis. People coming here for that would be better served by Facebook or some other social chat service. We're here to disseminate information and discuss our community and neighborhood in an open, inclusive forum. A private shoutbox, which encourages people to discuss things behind a curtain, is not complimentary to that mission. It creates a clique-like environment that outsiders do not feel welcome in.
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