Quote from: Groovejet on 03-02-2009, 01:07pmDow is down to 6800 at end of February....as predicted...you're welcome!Anyone sick of "Ob-amateur Hour" yet?Nope. Let us know when it gets to zero.
Dow is down to 6800 at end of February....as predicted...you're welcome!Anyone sick of "Ob-amateur Hour" yet?
"Yay! The first step in the return of the Constitution and civil rights!"Really?The fourth EO once again post-pones the trial of a man who has been held without charges.
From this day forward, unless the Attorney General with appropriate consultation provides further guidance, officers, employees, and other agents of the United States Government may, in conducting interrogations, act in reliance upon Army Field Manual 2 22.3, but may not, in conducting interrogations, rely upon any interpretation of the law governing interrogation -- including interpretations of Federal criminal laws, the Convention Against Torture, Common Article 3, Army Field Manual 2 22.3, and its predecessor document, Army Field Manual 34 52 issued by the Department of Justice between September 11, 2001, and January 20, 2009.
I don't necessarily think what happened *was* illegal.
Quote from: TheFang on 01-12-2009, 05:23pm. . . should be investigated and we should all know who they are and let them be run out on a rail and we should run them out on a rail. Sigh, the passive voice. I'm sick of iffy lefty speech. No-one's gonna do it for us, Fang. We have to do it ourselves.But I agree, they all need to go to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
. . . should be investigated and we should all know who they are and let them be run out on a rail and we should run them out on a rail.
Psst.. Fang:Fienstein and company have been briefed on this stuff since what, '05?Where was the outrage back then? Why no blocking action in Congress? They could've simply with held funds yet didn't. If all this stuff was patently illegal didn't folks like Diane Fienstein have a legal and moral obligation to do something about it?
Sunday, 1/11/9 ABC News. STEPHANOPOULOS: So no 9/11 Commission with independent seeking of power?OBAMA: Well we have not made any final decisions but my instinct is for us to focus on how do we make sure that moving forward, we are doing the right thing. That doesn't mean that if somebody has blatantly broken the law, that they are above the law. But my orientation's going to be to move forward.STEPHANOPOULOS: So let me just press that one more time. You're not ruling out prosecution, but will you tell your Justice Department to investigate these cases and follow the evidence where it leads?OBAMA: What I -- I think my general view when it comes to my attorney general is that he's the people's lawyer. Eric Holder's been nominated. His job is to uphold the Constitution and look after the interests of the American people. Not be swayed by my day-to-day politics. So ultimately, he's going to be making some calls. But my general belief is that when it comes to national security, what we have to focus on is getting things right in the future as opposed to looking at what we got wrong in the past.
Sincerely, Jello Biafra
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