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Re: Random stuff you wonder about...
« Reply #36 on: 11-13-2008, 10:33pm »
You can read all about it here.

You can buy at auction - that's market pricing.  You can buy at a gallery, or you can buy from the artist.  I overheard a segment on Fresh Air today (it's not yet up on their site about the lack of education art school students receive in the business of art.

It's a big business, but the people that seem to enjoy it most do it for the love of the art and the artists.  Like my friend who has a duplex, one floor is his gallery, but he's got so much more in storage and yes, on loan.  I  smirk a bit when I see their name on the placard "On loan from Mr. and Mrs. X_____" but I also know they've been at it for decades and they support a lot of younger artists and their foundation also brings in $$ for good works.





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« Reply #35 on: 11-13-2008, 09:15pm »
Ok, then how do really rich people purchase really high end art?   Does no one person own a Picasso, Monet or a Miro?   



Such a good question!  I think many of the exhibits are on loan from other museums/organizations and not owned by MoMA.  And the ones that are part of the MoMA permanent collection were either gifted by previous owners or purchased by the massive endowment (Rockefellers, I think).  So they aren't really for sale but I suppose in this economy, anything can happen  ;D




Yes, there are private owners of famous paintings -- who often lend them to museums or galleries for exhibits but often display them in private galleries in their own homes.  Just hanging on the wall, just like that.

Steve Wynn is one American millionaire who owns quite a bit of high end art.  He accidentally poked a hole in a Picasso he owns. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/14/national/main2179786.shtml


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Francis Bacon self-portrait fails to sell at NY auction
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081113/ennew_afp/lifestyleusartauction_081113034520

At the same auction, Metallica's Lars Ulrich sold his Untitled Basquiat painting for a $14 million ($2 million more than its estimated price).





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« Reply #34 on: 11-13-2008, 08:03pm »
Steve Wynn is a millionaire?  :o

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« Reply #33 on: 11-13-2008, 07:59pm »
Ok, then how do really rich people purchase really high end art?   Does no one person own a Picasso, Monet or a Miro?   



Such a good question!  I think many of the exhibits are on loan from other museums/organizations and not owned by MoMA.  And the ones that are part of the MoMA permanent collection were either gifted by previous owners or purchased by the massive endowment (Rockefellers, I think).  So they aren't really for sale but I suppose in this economy, anything can happen  ;D




Yes, there are private owners of famous paintings -- who often lend them to museums or galleries for exhibits but often display them in private galleries in their own homes.  Just hanging on the wall, just like that.

Steve Wynn is one American millionaire who owns quite a bit of high end art.  He accidentally poked a hole in a Picasso he owns. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/14/national/main2179786.shtml

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« Reply #32 on: 11-13-2008, 07:52pm »
Ok, then how do really rich people purchase really high end art?   Does no one person own a Picasso, Monet or a Miro?   



Such a good question!  I think many of the exhibits are on loan from other museums/organizations and not owned by MoMA.  And the ones that are part of the MoMA permanent collection were either gifted by previous owners or purchased by the massive endowment (Rockefellers, I think).  So they aren't really for sale but I suppose in this economy, anything can happen  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 11-13-2008, 07:50pm »
I dunno, but most people would sell their homes for the right price.  For instance, if someone drove by my house right now and offered me $1.4 million for my house I would so be out of here. T

Ya know, I'm not sure about this. I've been thinking about it. If something isn't for sale, then you can't buy it. Like, if you drive by a house you like, even if you could afford it, you just can't buy it if it's not for sale.

I think a lot of stuff in the museum is not for sale. honestly.
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« Reply #30 on: 11-13-2008, 07:48pm »
In fact there were several pieces of art, abstract paintings in particular I would love to have hangng in my home. 

Why? Was there something you particularly liked? Something that would look nice above the sofa?
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« Reply #29 on: 11-13-2008, 07:34pm »
I was at the MoMA today and I was wondering, if someone was really rich, can they actually buy a painting they see at the museum?

Such a good question!  I think many of the exhibits are on loan from other museums/organizations and not owned by MoMA.  And the ones that are part of the MoMA permanent collection were either gifted by previous owners or purchased by the massive endowment (Rockefellers, I think).  So they aren't really for sale but I suppose in this economy, anything can happen  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: 11-13-2008, 07:26pm »
I was at the MoMA today and I was wondering, if someone was really rich, can they actually buy a painting they see at the museum?

Ya know, I'm not sure about this. I've been thinking about it. If something isn't for sale, then you can't buy it. Like, if you drive by a house you like, even if you could afford it, you just can't buy it if it's not for sale.

I think a lot of stuff in the museum is not for sale. honestly.

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« Reply #27 on: 11-13-2008, 06:28pm »
I was at the MoMA today and I was wondering, if someone was really rich, can they actually buy a painting they see at the museum?
Why? Was there something you particularly liked? Something that would look nice above the sofa?

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« Reply #26 on: 11-13-2008, 06:12pm »
I was at the MoMA today and I was wondering, if someone was really rich, can they actually buy a painting they see at the museum?
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« Reply #25 on: 11-08-2008, 01:14pm »
I saw Bon Jovi play at that earth thing (the one with Gore) a year ago or so.  I can't remember what it was called.

Anyway, I was never a Bon Jovi fan until then, but their live act is amazing.  You get the feeling that they work their balls off to make the fans happy.  Lots of folks in that position don't seem to care much anymore (i.e. Fishbone and Smoky Robinson).
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« Reply #24 on: 11-08-2008, 11:12am »
I would agree with rok (and actually, expected he'd post this ;D ) that to an extent this is a generational thing.  My old man probably would've posted something similar if he were still alive (not to call rok an old timer >:D ).  My dad and his friends were huge fans of all this music.

As for me, I like stuff like this because (a) it's good ,and (b) nostalgia for listening to 45's in the living room with my dad when I was a kid. 

That said, however, even though there are big chunks of Springsteen's catalog I like, and I admit to the occasional faux-hipster ironic laugh at a Bon Jovi song or two, I don't really "get" the slavish devotion to those acts, either.

For that matter, part of this might also have to do with the fact that (whether you like them or not), you can go see Springsteen or Bon Jovi as they still perform live.  Access to a band live can't be underestimated when talking about continued popularity.
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« Reply #23 on: 11-08-2008, 10:52am »
You native New Jersey types are fiercly loyal to your local talent like Sprinsteen and Bon Jovi.  How come there isn't the same love for another successful New Jersey Band, Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons?

 ???  I just have to know.  It keeps me up all night wondering.

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« Reply #22 on: 11-07-2008, 10:14pm »
You native New Jersey types are fiercly loyal to your local talent like Sprinsteen and Bon Jovi.  How come there isn't the same love for another successful New Jersey Band, Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons?

 ???  I just have to know.  It keeps me up all night wondering.

My favorite song by them is "Working My Way Back To You" although I think the cover version by The Spinners is better.


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« Reply #21 on: 11-07-2008, 10:04pm »
The best Four Seasons song is Opus 17.

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« Reply #20 on: 11-07-2008, 09:57pm »
You native New Jersey types are fiercly loyal to your local talent like Sprinsteen and Bon Jovi.  How come there isn't the same love for another successful New Jersey Band, Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons?

 ???  I just have to know.  It keeps me up all night wondering.

My favorite song by them is "Working My Way Back To You" although I think the cover version by The Spinners is better.

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« Reply #19 on: 11-07-2008, 06:28pm »
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« Reply #18 on: 11-07-2008, 05:19pm »
Why is it we say "god bless you" or "gesundheit" when someone sneezes but not when they cough?


Because your soul doesn't have a chance to escape when you cough.

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Another version says that people used to believe that your soul can be thrown from your body when you sneeze,[1] that sneezing otherwise opened your body to invasion by the Devil[2] or evil spirits,[4] or that sneezing was your body's effort to force out an invading evil spirit.[1] Thus, "bless you" or "God bless you" is used as a sort of shield against evil.



Oh, I knew that but why sneezing only?  Why not coughing, burping, farting, and so forth?
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« Reply #17 on: 11-07-2008, 05:17pm »
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« Reply #16 on: 11-07-2008, 05:00pm »
Why is it we say "god bless you" or "gesundheit" when someone sneezes but not when they cough?


Because your soul doesn't have a chance to escape when you cough.

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« Reply #15 on: 11-07-2008, 04:57pm »
Why is it we say "god bless you" or "gesundheit" when someone sneezes but not when they cough?
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« Reply #14 on: 11-03-2008, 05:34pm »
I would say that anyone who would go to those lengths probably WANTS it to be noticed.  If you wanted to study his work, you could probably just smile and ask.  I'm sure if he was not in a hurry to get somewhere or something he would almost certainly oblige.
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« Reply #13 on: 11-03-2008, 05:19pm »
This one has been bugging me for a while...

So like there is this guy in the Heights up here who is totally tattooed on his face and seemingly everywhere else on his body. He's also heavily pierced. Now, what do you do? Just wondering how most people respond when they see someone like this. I mean, I really want to stare at and study him but then I find myself doing the whole pretending not to notice thing as if it's a huge nasty birthmark or something. So what would be considered polite? Can I stare at him if we are say walking towards each other down central ave? What would you do?


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« Reply #12 on: 11-03-2008, 05:03pm »
Scrubs are about the most comfortable piece of apparel known to mankind. It's like wearing really comfy pjs all day. Hospital workers with access to them routinely take them home when/if possible (as did my wife when she worked in an OR).


Do the color/design of one's scrubs correlate to one's position (doc, nurse, orderly) at a hospital? From what I've seen the last week and a half (visiting a loved one), the answer is no, but curious if anyone knows for sure.


Nope. You just pick up whatever color you would like at your local friendly uniform store. 
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