Hi Frank M, I didn't say giant hallmark card. Thats a giant trivialization. I think there is always room for an apology even if it the act was calculated and intentional. Accidents aren't the only time you should apologize. If I were cheated on, for example, you best believe i would want an apology. It doesn't diminish the severity, but it opens the door to the healing process-and evokes a profound understanding and empathy for the assault.And i think Barack would be far more eloquent then "Gee, we're really sorry"
I was talking particularly about the black and native american experience in this country, but i think it applies across ethnic racial lines across the world. I think the reason people are so hesitant about apologizing is because they dread the responsibility and accountability it implies. But that's one dimensional.
Quote from: beachmaster on 11-06-2008, 12:26pmSo now people must look at the social circumstances surrounding inequality not just the racial ones. WE CAN FINALLY look at CLASS as the source of inequality. but anyway, i digress.Doesn't this statement obviate the rest of your argument? There's plenty of (insert ethnic group here) who could theoretically wind up on your list for apologies.Platitudes.
So now people must look at the social circumstances surrounding inequality not just the racial ones. WE CAN FINALLY look at CLASS as the source of inequality. but anyway, i digress.
Quote from: beachmaster on 11-05-2008, 02:03pmI would like to see a formal apology for slavery and for the atrocities against native americans. I think an apology would go a long way towards the start of a new america.Okay, beachmaster, I've been thinking about this comment for a bit and have to get more details. I'm genuinely curious about what you are thinking. I can't see any use of an apology without an ulterior motive. I certainly think if the US pushes Turkey to issue a formal apology to the Armenians then the US should be willing to take its own medicine first. Especially since the US's atrocities are on a much greater scale.The apology itself by Obama would take about 4 minutes. I can't really see how this would satisfy anyone. The aftermath of lawsuits and reparations would never end....duke
I would like to see a formal apology for slavery and for the atrocities against native americans. I think an apology would go a long way towards the start of a new america.
IF we are going to enact new regulatory regimes for the insurance carriers (which I don't think is a terrible idea), I would like to see it at the Federal level. The current state by state melange of regulatory bodies is confusing, complex, cryptic, and not good for the consumer.
Quote from: Soshin on 11-05-2008, 09:09amOkay, what do you guys want to see?Now that the republicans are out, I'd like to see a thorough purging of Intelligent Design begin taught in classrooms.
Okay, what do you guys want to see?
Criminalizing policy differences is for banana republics, not a nation that purports to lead the free world. If you think that American politics is nasty now, just wait until the consequence of an election loss is a criminal show trial. We've already gone too far in that direction, with Scooter Libby carrying a felony conviction for remembering a conversation differently than a reporter. An administration that wants to heal the country and move towards a more bi-partisan politics would not engage in such witch hunts.mr.t
Quote from: Soshin on 11-05-2008, 09:09amWhat would you people out there like to see take priority? Me, I would like to see Obama work on our problems/issues first. Then focus on the rest of the world. I, too, would like to see us out of the two wars. Bring our troops home. I don't give a flying flip (much to mr.t's horror) about settling other countries issues. We have enough issues here in the U.S. of A to worry about.
What would you people out there like to see take priority?
The election is over, Obama won, where do we go from here? If his concession speech is to be believed then this has the possibility of being the most bi-partisan administration ever. What would you people out there like to see take priority? Me, I want to see him end the two wars and work to restore some prestige to the United Nations. On top of that I want to see some justice administered to the people who start preemptive wars under false circumstances. I know Obama already said that he has no desire to get bogged down in something that many will see as a partisan witch-hunt, perhaps this is something that the war crimes tribunal in the Hague can deal with. Invite the subpoenas, open the vaults and let the world courts sort it out. As we know with convicted war criminal Henry Kissinger, these courts do not always manage to lock people up, but I think the symbolism of a guilty conviction would be immense.Okay, what do you guys want to see?
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