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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #12 on: 12-12-2008, 04:35pm »
I am in favor of erecting (pun intended) a giant glass phallus where developers can insert money at will.  When said phallus is full, a gigantic fountain of glittery milk shoots into the sky and wherever it lands ground for a new tax-abated building can be broken.  This way it can be Xmas in Jersey City ALL YEAR ROUND!

Other than that, I concur with JCPeace in his first post on this subject.

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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #11 on: 12-12-2008, 03:03pm »
Likes the glitzy, gaudy decorations. Every one of them.
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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #10 on: 12-12-2008, 02:30pm »
I understand your point Fang, but since catering to every group is absurdly impossible, the only way to eliminate the possibility of offending anybody is to eliminate the decorations entirely.  I personally don't think that's a big deal, but it certainly is boring.

Exactly! Get rid of them all.

Besides, someone needs to pick fights around here now that all the rabblerousers are gone.

What about a Festivus display?  It might be offensive, but in a non-sectarian way.

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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #9 on: 12-12-2008, 02:26pm »
I understand your point Fang, but since catering to every group is absurdly impossible, the only way to eliminate the possibility of offending anybody is to eliminate the decorations entirely.  I personally don't think that's a big deal, but it certainly is boring.

Exactly! Get rid of them all.


Besides, someone needs to pick fights around here now that all the rabblerousers are gone.
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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #8 on: 12-12-2008, 12:43pm »
Groan. ::)

There's already a sculpture of a cathedral on City Hall property. 


Ah yes, but that is a sculpture of a building in Jersey City. Not just of a random cathedral. There is a huge difference.


Actually, the sculpture is of Oviedo Cathedral and is a gift from the city of Oviedo, Spain, one of Jersey City's many sister cities. ianmac47 has pics on his blog.


Here's another.  Ceremonial renaming of streets is a topic for another discussion, but that block of Mercer is also called "Oveido Way" if you notice the street sign.  (Incidentally, I titled this photo "church and state".)

I understand your point Fang, but since catering to every group is absurdly impossible, the only way to eliminate the possibility of offending anybody is to eliminate the decorations entirely.  I personally don't think that's a big deal, but it certainly is boring.


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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #7 on: 12-12-2008, 12:11pm »
they need to replace them with a statue of santa pissing on deadheads...or  >:D i'm callin the ACLU  >:D
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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #6 on: 12-12-2008, 12:08pm »
Groan. ::)

There's already a sculpture of a cathedral on City Hall property. 


Ah yes, but that is a sculpture of a building in Jersey City. Not just of a random cathedral. There is a huge difference.


Actually, the sculpture is of Oviedo Cathedral and is a gift from the city of Oviedo, Spain, one of Jersey City's many sister cities. ianmac47 has pics on his blog.

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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #5 on: 12-12-2008, 11:55am »
I'm more concerned with keeping religion and the state separate in terms of actual governance than I am with some dioramas on a lawn.

ETA- I'm more concerned as well with some of the other things I've seen on that lawn, to wit- hypodermic needles, human waste matter, and broken glass, in no particular order.  Not to mention the homeless man who  occasionally sleeps on the stairwell on the north side of the building.
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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #4 on: 12-12-2008, 11:50am »
i think that it should all be set aflame in honor of my favorite holiday fuckyourpatheticintellectuallyunevolvedreligionmas

eat shit, christians


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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #3 on: 12-12-2008, 11:49am »
Groan. ::)

There's already a sculpture of a cathedral on City Hall property. 

Ah yes, but that is a sculpture of a building in Jersey City. Not just of a random cathedral. There is a huge difference.
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Re: Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #2 on: 12-12-2008, 11:43am »
 Groan. ::)

There's already a sculpture of a cathedral on City Hall property.  They're decorations, big deal.  The separation of church and state in terms of government practice is maintained.  Nobody is required to genuflect, keep the Sabbath holy, or pray to Mecca.

Why can't we have nice things?   ;D

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Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #1 on: 12-12-2008, 11:18am »
Alright so now that all the sensitive Catholics are gone, I figured I could start this thread about something that has been bothering me all week.

The Nativity Scene and Menorah on the lawn of City Hall. And the Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah signs.

Here's what I think, I think they shouldn't be there at all, I appreciate the "Happy New Year" sign, but it seems like a bit of a cop-out. If you're gonna try to do the all religion/holiday thing then where is the "Happy Eid al Adha" or "Happy Winter Solstice" or "Happy Bodhi Day" or why no "Happy Diwali" sign last month? And worst of all no Flying Spaghetti Monster Nativity.

Or even for us atheisits, no "Happy Wednesday!" sign.


So yeah, church and state people.

What do you folks think of this?
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Holidays and City Hall
« Reply #1 on: 12-12-2008, 11:18am »