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Re: The BIG 1": Apple iPhone
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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #25 on: 07-09-2007, 11:14am »
Well I got one the other day.  It is pretty snazzy, I am mosdef the envy of all my friends.  Sure their are the quirks but I must say all in all it is an impressive display of technology.  The reviews are pretty much right on, everything it does it does well, but the downloading is a bit slow.  It does pick up wifi signals to download on quite well and in the city their seemed to be a slew of avaliable networks that were accessible.  Anyways it is a pretty neat gadget. 

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« Reply #24 on: 07-06-2007, 10:26am »
Sounds like Apple is pulling the same crap with the battery that it does with the ipod, i.e. the battery is soldered in and to replace it you actually have to send in the phone to be serviced.

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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #23 on: 07-02-2007, 12:53pm »
iPhone FAQ from David Pogue of the NYT. Sound like a mixed bag:



June 28, 2007 | State of the Art
Often-Asked iPhone Questions
By DAVID POGUE

With its new iPhone, Apple pulled off two masterful feats: creating the machine and creating the buzz around it.

That machine, and that buzz, have inspired a lot of questions. Just how much of a phone, an iPod and an Internet machine is this thing?

Here are the answers to the most frequently asked iPhone questions. Consider them a companion to my review yesterday, which covered the big points like the touch-screen keyboard (adequate with practice), the AT&T Internet network (painfully slow) and the iPhone’s overall character (fun, powerful, amazing).

Before you dive in, though, a note about the “Does it have...?” questions. Apple has indicated that it intends to add features through free software updates, so the real, secret answer to some of the “no” answers is actually, “Coming soon.”

Phone
Does the touch screen work if you’re wearing gloves? Will a stylus or pen tip work? No. Skin contact is required to operate the buttons. Fortunately, most tappable elements on the screen are big and broad, designed for fingertip access.

Does the iPhone have a speakerphone? Vibrate mode? Airplane mode? Yes, yes and yes. The speakerphone and the vibrations are both weak, though.

Can I dial without looking? Can I dial one-handed? You can’t do much on the iPhone without looking. Then again, few people can operate a cellphone without looking. Dialing the iPhone one-handed, though, is easy. As your fingers grasp the iPhone, your thumb is free to tap buttons, scroll lists and so on.

Can I use a SIM card from another phone? The iPhone comes with an installed SIM card, the tiny circuit board that stores your account information and phone number. Apple says that you should be able to replace it with any recent AT&T card, once you activate it in iTunes. No other company’s SIM card works in the iPhone.

Will the iPhone work overseas? If you mean to use your AT&T account, yes; call AT&T to turn on international roaming, and then prepare to pay big roaming charges. If you mean to insert some other country’s SIM card, no.

How about voice memos, voice dialing or call recording? No.

Do I need an AT&T account? Yes. The iPhone won’t work at all without a two-year AT&T voice-plus-Internet plan (and no, you can’t use it as just an iPod, no matter how tempting the bigger screen and longer battery life is).

iPod
What iPod features does the iPhone have? Password protection, Shuffle and Repeat modes, ratings, audiobooks, audiobook speed control, podcasts, SoundCheck, equalization, volume limiter, on-the-go playlists.

What iPod features does it lack? Games, lyrics, video output to a TV and disk mode (when the iPod acts as a hard drive for transporting computer files).

Does the iPhone work with iPod accessories? Some of them. The iPod radio receiver works, for example, but FM transmitters may not work. Existing speaker systems trigger the iPhone’s airplane mode (wireless and phone features turned off) to avoid interference with the music. Starting soon, iPhone-compatible iPod products will bear a “works with iPhone” logo.

Can you use your iTunes songs as ring tones? Can you download new ones? No. At the moment, the iPhone’s 25 ring tones are your only choices. (They’re really good.)

Can you use your own headphones? Fortunately, the iPhone has a standard miniplug headphone jack; unfortunately, its plastic molding prevents most headphone plugs from seating properly. Inexpensive adapters are available from Belkin and others.

Wireless
Does the iPhone work with Bluetooth computers, printers, stereo headsets or keyboards? No. At the moment, it communicates only with hands-free devices like Bluetooth headsets (including Apple’s very tiny one, coming in July) and a car’s dashboard system.

Does the iPhone alert you when it detects a wireless Internet hot spot? Yes. In fact, if it’s a hot spot you’ve used before, the iPhone hops onto it seamlessly and quietly.

Can the iPhone serve as a wireless modem for my laptop? No.

Can the iPhone receive songs, files, calendar appointments, contacts or software updates wirelessly? No, only from your computer through the U.S.B. charging cradle. But this is kind of neat: Unlike the iPod, there’s no “do not disconnect” message during syncing. You can yank the iPhone out of the cradle whenever you like — to answer a call, for example; syncing resumes when you’re done. You can also operate the iPhone while it is charging.

Internet
Can you make phone calls while you’re on the Internet? Yes — if your iPhone has a Wi-Fi connection. When it’s using AT&T’s Internet network, no.

Why didn’t Apple use AT&T’s faster 3G Internet network? Apple says that today’s relatively unpolished 3G (third generation) radio chips would drain the battery too fast — and at this point, wouldn’t provide enough of a speed boost to justify that trade-off. Apple will release a 3G iPhone model when the time seems right.

How snappy is the real iPhone, compared with Apple’s ads? It’s identical, with one exception: Apple never shows the iPhone when it’s on AT&T’s cellular network. That would just be embarrassing.

What kind of e-mail can it get? The iPhone comes with presets for Gmail, AOL and Yahoo Mail. You can also set up standard POP3 and IMAP accounts.

Is there instant messaging, like AIM or MSN Messenger? No. Text-message exchanges appear as sequential, colorful text balloons, just as in Apple’s iChat program. But they’re still cellphone text messages, not chat.

Does the iPhone synchronize bookmarks with your computer? Yes: with Safari on the Mac, or Internet Explorer on Windows.

What does the Web browser have? Multiple open pages (like tabs), fonts, layouts, pop-up menus, checkboxes, clickable links and dialable phone numbers (tap with your finger).

What does it lack? Java, Flash, stored passwords, RSS, streaming audio or video (except for some QuickTime videos).

What about V.P.N. (virtual private networking)? The iPhone works with several common V.P.N. systems (that is, secure connections to corporate networks). A Settings screen lets you fill in the configuration details.

Software
Does the iPhone synchronize with my computer’s calendar and address book? Yes. It can sync with Address Book or Microsoft Entourage on the Macintosh, Outlook, Outlook Express on Windows, or Yahoo’s address book on the Web. If you add appointments or phone numbers to the iPhone, they are added to your computer the next time you sync.

Do To Do items show up on the iPhone? Do memos in the iPhone’s Notes program show up on the computer? No.

Does the keyboard rotate when you rotate the iPhone? Only in the Web browser. That’s a shame, because the rotated keyboard, stretching the full length of the screen, is much bigger and easier to use than the narrow version.

Can you type with two thumbs? I’ve seen Apple employees flail away with two thumbs as though on a BlackBerry, but it takes loads of practice. After two weeks, I’m still tapping with one index finger.

Without cursor keys, how do I edit something I’ve written? If you hold your fingertip against the glass, a magnifying loupe appears around it. You can now slide you finger through what you’ve written, moving the insertion point as you go.

Can the iPhone replace a BlackBerry? It’s not really even in the same category. For example, only Yahoo Mail accounts offer “push” e-mail like a BlackBerry, in which new messages appear in real time. For other accounts, the iPhone checks either periodically (every 15, 30 or 60 minutes) or when you tap the Check button. Similarly, you can view e-mailed Word, Excel and PDF attachments on the iPhone, but you can’t create or edit them. The iPhone doesn’t work with corporate Exchange e-mail systems, either, unless the administrator turns on IMAP (the administrator presumably knows what that is).

Hardware
Is there an ambient light sensor? Yes. A light sensor lies camouflaged behind the black glass. Each time you wake the phone, it adjusts the brightness — to make it brighter in sunlight, for example. You can also adjust the brightness manually.

Does the camera have a flash? Zoom? Self-portrait mirror? None of the above. The chrome Apple logo on the back is not a self-portrait mirror.

Are there any secret features? When the screen is off, the glossy black glass becomes a handy makeup mirror.

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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #22 on: 07-01-2007, 09:45pm »
if someone gave me one, i might take it, but otherwise, its lacking in some areas that i feel a good celly needs, but i dont use mine as a pda, etc.

i will stick with my pretty pebl until then. 
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« Reply #21 on: 07-01-2007, 08:05pm »
I stood in line for 2 and a half hours on Friday at Newport and well they ran out of the 8 gig one while I was about 10 people away.  I'm not really sure why I need more the 4 gigs, but eh I wanted it.  Maybe I'll get one later this week.  It sure does look cool as hell though.

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« Reply #20 on: 07-01-2007, 07:35pm »
I got one.  It took about 15 hours to activate and port my number from verizon, and now it's wreaking havoc on my wifi. Endless hours on the phone with apple tech support. Typing is a little weird without buttons. But it looks like it's going to be pretty cool.

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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #19 on: 06-30-2007, 03:16am »
OMG!  The tunes on pinky's clip are seriously THE BEST!  That's quality music, peeps!
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« Reply #17 on: 06-29-2007, 06:45pm »
I totally want one too -- and I don't even own an ipod!

Finally, my hesitation to jump into the electronic gadget world has paid off -- I've been waiting for an all-in-one ever since I got my first cellie.  Now, if I can only keep waiting long enough for the better phone coverage, I will have saved my pennies to good use  ;D

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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #16 on: 06-29-2007, 05:06pm »
Get SamS to buy you one jenny!


That's the best idea I've heard all day!   ;D

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« Reply #15 on: 06-29-2007, 03:45pm »
I love watching Stephen Colbert campaign for one every night on the Colbert Report.
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« Reply #14 on: 06-29-2007, 03:34pm »
fuck iphone.  make my 120gb ipod!

that said, if anyone wants to buy me an iphone, i would happily accept.
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« Reply #13 on: 06-29-2007, 03:22pm »
I just got one! 




no, I didn't.  i completely made that up.  ;D   happy friday!!!

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« Reply #12 on: 06-29-2007, 03:19pm »
I'm pretty happy with my Verizon Pocket PC. --Okay, it's not a great phone unless you're using a headset, but it serves my email and internet needs as far as I need them.

I think 2.0 will probably be better. I'm also bothered by the lack of a physical keyboard.
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Re: Iphone?
« Reply #11 on: 06-29-2007, 03:16pm »
I'm totally going to wait for iPhone 2.0 on T-Mobile, when(if?) ever it arrives.

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« Reply #10 on: 06-29-2007, 03:04pm »
I just got one! 




no, I didn't.  i completely made that up.  ;D   happy friday!!!

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Iphone?
« Reply #9 on: 06-29-2007, 02:56pm »
Anyone eager to get one of these bad boys?  I start off every day saying no I'll wait for a bit, to I need one today.  Luckily my current phone is on its last legs, and my contract is up.  But still I can't help but think the 2nd generation will knock the socks off of this one a la the ipod.  But that is with any technology you buy right away.


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« Reply #8 on: 06-13-2007, 12:31pm »
If there were an *option* to add a keyboard (especially one of them fold-'em up types), that would be cool.

Gotta say, I like the TV ad.

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« Reply #7 on: 06-13-2007, 11:45am »
I think the most important thing the iPhone will do is bring mobile computing / internet mainstream. For now, mobile email / web browsing is really targeted to the business crowd where the business pays for the service for their employees. But the the iPhone is as much a toy as it is a tool, and I suspect this will usher in a new era of mobile use where "smartphones" go from a minority of users to a majority of users.

Also, Mac computers make up only roughly 5% of the personal computer market, but this is still a huge number of people. 

As far as the success or failure of the iphone, the Razr only achieved something like 6% of handset marketplace at its peak use. According to Wikipedia there are 2.1 Billion phone subscribers in the world. Jobs wants to sell 10 million iphones. I don't think he'll have a problem.

I think there will likely be some delay however as people wait out the current contracts with other carriers to avoid cancellation charges or wait to replace their iPod along with their phone.

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« Reply #6 on: 06-13-2007, 10:44am »
Related to the iPhone release is the news that Apple is launching a Windows version of its Safari browser, also used by iPhone:

"That means, Jobs said, that any application designed to run on the Safari browser for Macs also would be fully compatible with the iPhone -- Apple's highly anticipated combination cell phone, iPod and wireless Web browser. The iPhone will be available in the U.S. on June 29.

The move to make Safari available to non-Mac users is not unprecedented: Apple also makes its iPod media players and iTunes Store for Windows. The strategy is aimed in part at drawing more people to its Macintosh computers.

It appears to be paying off. Mac sales have grown significantly over the past two years, pushing its slice of the PC market in the United States from 3.5 percent in 2004 to 4.9 percent in 2006, according to IDC, a market research company.

"Safari is another Trojan horse that introduces an innovation of Apple to the Windows community and entices them to the Mac platform," said Tim Bajarin, an industry analyst at Creative Strategies, a technology consultancy.

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« Reply #5 on: 06-13-2007, 10:15am »
If it was anyone but Jobs, I'd say it didn't stand much of a chance.  But you can't discount this guy's foresight.

In case no one's paying attention, Apple is no longer about the Mac.  The iPod changed that forever as well as their name from Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Inc.  I own a Mac but will unlikely ever buy an iPod or iPhone.  I prefer more functional devices and am firmly entrenched with my Creative MP3 player and Treo.  But I'm an old fart and bells and whistles don't do that much for me any more.  The target audience is not people like me, stodgy old businessmen.  Its geared for the gadget-crazed graphically inclined.  As far as price, Apple has traditionally started out at a ridiculous price and come down.  Does anyone think they will not sell out when it's released?  There'll probably be a ton of backorders.  And by the time the furor is over, the price will have dropped by as much as 50%.

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« Reply #4 on: 06-13-2007, 09:44am »
like a lot of new apple stuff, i'm sure that the iPhone will be flawed in its initial incarnation.  this was the case with the iPod and a few other products.

never buy first generation anything from apple......

i'm betting that a year from now they will cost half of  what they cost now and will have all of the kinks worked out.

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« Reply #3 on: 06-13-2007, 09:24am »
The success of the iphone does not depend on its overall market share. It does not need to be the number one selling cell phone on the market to be a success. I would assume that if a decent percentage of the macheads purchase the phone it will do well.

Its biggest hurdle will be its price and the fact that it can only be used on the AT+T network. I don't see the texting teen generation buying the iphone but i do see the graphic designer crowd embracing the slick device.

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Re: The BIG 1"
« Reply #2 on: 06-13-2007, 08:42am »
I could be completely off-base, but here goes:

I do think, despite initial huge sales, the iPhone will be a failure for anything other than the niche Apple crowd.  Let's face it - Apple makes up less than 10% of overall computer sales worldwide.  Translate that into something that then requires a markedly more expensive subscription service that you cannot let lapse, and you're going to see even smaller sales.


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Re: The BIG 1"
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