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Academy Bus Co. to take over Bayonne, Jersey City No. 10 busline; will keep it operating past present owner’s April 8 termination date
Published: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 3:00 AM
Andrew Steadman/The Jersey Journal

The No. 10 bus has a reprieve.

Bayonne and Jersey City officials announced yesterday that the No. 10 bus, that runs along Kennedy Boulevard from West 3rd Street in Bayonne to Journal Square, will keep operating past the April 8 date the current bus owner has said service will end.

“There will be no stoppage in service to the No. 10 bus route ... thanks to an agreement between Bayonne, Jersey City, NJ Transit and Academy Bus Co.,” Bayonne city officials said in a release.

Academy will take over the No. 10 bus route that Coach USA’s Red & Tan Tours is dropping on April 8, the release stated.

Academy will operate the No. 10 route from April 8 until November, when NJ Transit can put the route out for bids on permanent bus service, the release said.

“We are happy to report that an accommodation has been reached that will provide for uninterrupted service for the citizens of both Bayonne and Jersey City,” Smith said in the press release. “The Boulevard bus will continue to operate and provide an important transportation link for our communities.”

Smith had previously demanded that Red & Tan continue to operate the No. 10 bus route until an alternative could be found.

Citing factors such as the downturn in the economy and competition from jitneys, Jim Rutherford, general manager for Red & Tan, told The Jersey Journal last week his company is losing money on the route.

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Re: Bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #32 on: 10-20-2011, 01:22pm »
Mayor Healy Announces Resolution for No. 4 & 99S Buses; Credits Teamwork Between City, NJ Transit, Private Sector

Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy announced on October 14th that following a meeting with the state legislative delegation representing Jersey City, as well as with the Executive Director of NJ Transit, John Leon, to discuss the current abandonment of bus routes in Jersey City by Coach USA, that a resolution has been found to keep service running on both heavily used routes. 

“Jersey City residents rely on bus service as a means of transportation to work, to school, to church, to shopping and to perform other daily activities,” said Mayor Healy. “We were able to take quick action by meeting with our state legislators and NJ Transit to resolve this matter. In these challenging economic times, our residents certainly could not afford to lose another vital service in our city and we are pleased that we were able to all come together to bring a swift resolution to this matter.”

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Re: Bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #31 on: 10-20-2011, 11:16am »
New Bus Service, The No. 119 Line, To Begin November 7th; Will Replace the Old 99S

Effective Monday, November 7, 2011, NJ TRANSIT will start a new bus route, the No. 119 line, which will replace the Coach USA 99S. The new No. 119 will be operating only on weekdays during peak periods between Bayonne, Jersey City, and the Port Authority Bus Terminal (PABT) in New York. There will be no weekend or mid-day service.

For more information on route, stops, fares, and hours of operation, read more here.

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Re: Bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #30 on: 10-15-2011, 08:47am »
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2011/10/portions_of_discontinued_4_and.html

In a move that will delight commuters, local shoppers and Jersey City business owners, NJ Transit and A&C Bus will take up the bus routes that Red & Tan bus company announced last week it is discontinuing, and there will be no lapse in service, state and local officials said today.
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Business owners on Jersey City's Central Avenue object to imminent end of 99S bus
Published: Monday, October 10, 2011, 3:03 AM
Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal

Business owners on Jersey City’s Central Avenue are “going crazy” over bus company Red & Tan’s imminent decision to halt the 99S bus, which runs along the business corridor.

Michael Yun, who owns Garden State news and heads the Central Avenue Special Improvement District board, said Red & Tan’s move will devastate businesses there, leaving shoppers no way to get to Central Avenue from other parts of the city.

“It’s a very critical issue for the business community,” Yun said.

The 99S bus starts in Bayonne, travels up Kennedy Boulevard to Journal Square, then north on Central Avenue and ends at the Port Authority bus terminal in New York. On Thursday, Red & Tan revealed they are halting the 99S after Nov. 6, as well as the 4 bus, which travels from Merritt Street to Newport Centre in Jersey City.

Jim Rutherford, who runs Red & Tan and other bus companies under the Coach USA umbrella, suggested yesterday that 99S riders use the company’s 10 bus, which runs from Bayonne to Journal Square and will be the company’s only bus line.

But that won’t help shoppers headed from Greenville to Central Avenue. Central Avenue business owners are “going crazy,” according to Yun.

They may get some help from Hudson County’s Trenton delegation. State Sen. Nicholas Sacco, who heads the Senate Transportation Committee, said Red & Tan’s decision is another example of public transportation being “under assault” in the state.

“We should be encouraging people to take advantage of mass transit systems, not taking them away,” Sacco said in a statement. Sacco said he and Assemblyman Vincent Prieto, who represents the 32nd Legislative District, are in talks with NJ Transit to see if they can extend service to Central Avenue.

“Hopefully a solution will be found,” Sacco said.

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Re: Bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #28 on: 10-09-2011, 04:47pm »
The 99S (or a service similar to it) will continue to operate past 11/6. That I can guarantee.

I can't guarantee the 4 will continue to run, but the odds are very good (75-80% chance) that it will continue.
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Re: Bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #27 on: 10-08-2011, 09:34pm »
I saw this at the PABT this evening.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gungirlnewyork/6224957012/

A fellow passenger told me about an online petition to have NJ Transit take over the route. Once I find the link, I will post it.

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Jersey City and Bayonne will lose 99S and 4 buses; Red & Tan Line says their ridership is low
Published: Friday, October 07, 2011, 3:03 AM
Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal

The Red & Tan bus company will eliminate its 99S and 4 buses next month, an action that could leave commuters scrambling to find alternative routes to work.

The 99S bus starts in Bayonne, travels up Kennedy Boulevard to Journal Square, then north on Central Avenue and ends at the Port Authority bus terminal in New York. The 4 bus travels from Merritt Street to Newport Centre in Jersey City. The two lines will cease running after Nov. 6.

Jim Rutherford, general manager for Red & Tan and four other bus companies under the umbrella of Coach USA, confirmed the decision yesterday. He said low ridership is to blame.

“We’ve been struggling with these lines for several years,” Rutherford said. “Certainly the economy hasn’t helped us.”

Rutherford declined to give actual ridership figures.

“This is ridiculous that they are canceling the 4 line,” said Cindy Hogan, 55, who uses the bus four or five times a week to get to work. “I remember when Coach buses had a line that went between Jersey City and Union City, but I guess they weren’t making enough money.

“Mass transit always loses money, so I don’t know why it’s a sudden revelation now; now people are going to get laid off in addition to the inconveniences it causes.”

Juan Valez, 18, of Jersey City, said he doesn’t know how he’ll get to Newport mall without the 4 bus.

“I need this bus, this is my fifth time here this week,” Valez said. “I came here today just to get food with my friends, so obviously this is a place we like to go to often.”

Red & Tan currently operates three lines in Jersey City. The one route that will remain active is the 10 bus that runs from Third Street in Bayonne to Journal Square.

Rutherford suggested 99S riders use the 10 and get into New York by using PATH trains, while riders of the 4 bus can look to NJ Transit’s Light Rail and 81 bus.

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NJ Transit steps in to start new bus line in Jersey City
« Reply #25 on: 02-11-2008, 01:31pm »
NJT will operate Route 99 as NJT Route 6, effective 2/18/2008.

http://www.njtransit.com/admintemp/bus6timetable.pdf
http://www.njtransit.com/admintemp/bus6.pdf


Thanks for the heads-up, JAzumah. Here's the story from the JJ:

NJ Transit steps in to start new bus line in Jersey City
by Journal staff
Monday February 11, 2008, 11:15 AM

NJ Transit will introduce a new bus route serving Jersey City on Monday, Feb. 18. The new No. 6 Ocean Avenue bus route will operate between Greenville and Journal Square to replace Coach USA Bus No. 99, which will be discontinued this coming Sunday.

"The creation of this new bus route demonstrates our commitment to serving the bus customers in Jersey City who depend on public transporation for their day-to-day needs," said NJ Transit Executive Director Richard Sarles. "We appreciate the interest of community leaders, including Mayor (Jerramiah) Healy, in championing robust public transportation for the residents affected by Coach USA's decision."

The new bus line will follow a similar - but not identical - route and schedule as the former No. 99 bus. The new route will enable the No. 6 buses to serve Hudson County Plaza (currently under construction), as well as Montgomery Gardens and The Beacon condominium project.

Coach USA's Nos. 3,5,and 16 bus lines, which serve the southern end of Jersey City, have been canceled since September. And the No. 4 could be discontinued in mid-March. Coach USA officials say they are cutting service due to low ridership and rising fuel costs.

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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #24 on: 02-09-2008, 07:08pm »
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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #23 on: 01-31-2008, 12:35pm »
As long as the pressure is kept on, the 4 and the 99 will be just fine.

Do not think for a second that NJT is a ton better. They make their cuts quietly.
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WHEEL DEAL
« Reply #22 on: 01-29-2008, 08:14am »
From the JJ. Maybe they can add some seats to the mobile unit and bus people around the abandoned routes.



WHEEL DEAL
Healy: Mobile mail compromise for community
Tuesday, January 29, 2008
By KEN THORBOURNE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Faced with a hospital closing, cuts in bus service, and a shuttered post office, residents of Jersey City's Greenville and Bergen-Lafayette neighborhoods may have caught a break on the postal front yesterday.

Following a one-hour meeting with U.S. Postal Service honchos yesterday, Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy announced the likelihood of a mobile unit operating in front of the closed Lafayette branch at 322 Pacific Ave. three hours a day, five days a week.

In addition, city officials asked the Postal Service to extend from 45 minutes to two hours the operations of the mobile unit that opened last Friday for two days a week in front of a seniors building at 467 Pacific Ave. Po1st office officials are supposed to let the city know by tomorrow if they can comply with these requests, Healy said.

The mayor said he also pressed the postal officials for a long-term solution, which he said could consist of either re-opening the Lafayette branch, which was closed for security reasons, or opening a new facility on a smaller lot the USPS owns nearby.


"We don't mind shrinking the facility where we have a large segment of our city's population that lives there, that has depended on that forever and now it's vanished," said Healy, flanked by City Council members Viola Richardson and Steve Lipski, Freeholder chairman Jeff Dublin, and members of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association.

Healy said Postal Service officials would let him know by March 1 if they planned to reopen a permanent facility in the area.

Postmaster Jeff Gannon (ed: not this guy, we hope), who attended the meeting with Healy, declined to comment.

The Lafayette branch closed on Dec. 21 after a bulletproof glass door through which parcels are passed fell off its hinges. Employees there were already jittery because of two robbery attempts last year. After the second robbery attempt, it came to light the branch's surveillance cameras were not functioning.

Roughly 20 members of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association gathered outside of City Hall before yesterday's meeting to protest the closed post office, cuts in Red & Tan bus service and the looming closure of Greenville Hospital.

Three bus lines - the Nos. 3, 5 and 16 - have been canceled since September. Due to an emergency cash outlay by NJ Transit, the No. 99 will keep running at least until Feb. 17 and the No. 4 until mid-April.

Healy said he's meeting with NJ Transit tomorrow to request more money for those lines.

A state hearing on closing Greenville Hospital is scheduled for Feb. 7.

"It seems as if we are being told we don't count," said Richardson, about the avalanche of service cuts in her ward. "I feel we are under assault."

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Greenville plans rallies to regain post office, buses
« Reply #21 on: 01-26-2008, 12:14pm »
Greenville plans rallies to regain post office, buses
Saturday, January 26, 2008
By AMY SARA CLARK
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Not willing to lose their bus lines and post office without a fight, Greenville-area residents are planning a marathon of events Monday in Jersey City, including a rally, a meeting with city officials, a letter-writing drive and a community meeting.

The Lafayette branch post office has been closed since Dec. 21 due to a broken door inside the office used to accept packages. Three bus lines - the Nos. 3, 5 and 16 - have been canceled since September. The Nos. 99 and 4 are slated to be canceled soon.

Coach USA, which owns the Red & Tan Hudson County lines, has cited rising fuel and insurance costs and low ridership for the canceled lines; passengers have countered that if ridership has dropped off, it's because of unreliable service.

The rally is planned for 1:30 p.m. on the steps of City Hall. "We're asking people to bring their neighbors and their signs," said Rosalyn Browne, president of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association.

About a half hour later, Mayor Jerramiah Healy, Postmaster Jeff Gannon and other city and county officials are scheduled to meet concerning the closed post office, according to city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill. Browne said she has been assured by the Mayor's Office that CABA representatives will be included in the meeting.

Later that night, CABA will hold a meeting at Monumental Baptist Church to report what happened at City Hall. Also at that meeting, CABA will collect and notarize complaint letters to deliver to Coach USA.


Browne said she hopes to collect at least 1,000 letters, all notarized. "Anybody can just write a letter and sign someone else's name. We want to make sure the letters are valid," she said. She said residents can bring letters to the meeting to be notarized or write them there. They can also bring letters from friends, but they must be notarized in advance.

At the Jan. 14 block association meeting, David Donnelly, special assistant to the mayor, asked residents to record their experiences with unreliable Red & Tan buses since the company has said it receives very few complaints.

Donnelly is also collecting complaints at http://www.jerseycitynj.gov (click on online Help Center), (201) 547-4900 or by mail at City of Jersey City, 280 Grove St., Jersey City, NJ 07302.

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Riders ready to throw company under the bus
« Reply #20 on: 01-16-2008, 12:10pm »
Riders ready to throw company under the bus
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
By AMY SARA CLARK
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Outrage and frustration over canceled bus lines turned to talk of a boycott of Red & Tan buses after more than 100 people crowded into Monumental Baptist Church for a block association meeting Monday night. The No. 16 was canceled this week, on the heels of cancellation of the Nos. 3 and 5 in September. The No. 99 is expected to stop running in 30 days, while the No. 4 has three months before it's expected to be discontinued.

Coach USA, which owns the Red & Tan Hudson County lines, has cited rising fuel and insurance costs and low ridership for the cancellation of the lines, but riders say there would be plenty of ridership if the buses were reliable.

Margie Mccord, 58, has been walking 30 minutes each way to the Journal Square PATH for months because she got sick of waiting for buses that never came. She said she's waited 90 minutes for the No. 99 and more than an hour for the No. 4. "I don't care what you get, but we need something," Mccord said to the numerous city and state politicians at the meeting. "Whatever you have to do, do it."

Councilman Steve Lipski suggested that the $1.5 million the city had offered to Greenville Hospital be used to hire a "transportation czar" who would coordinate and lobby for transportation improvements for the entire city. Ward F Councilwoman Viola Richardson brought up the possibility of riders taking more severe action. "I'm personally ready to boycott them." Her remark received spirited applause, but after the meeting, riders said they had mixed feelings. While some said they would do whatever it takes, others said it might be too difficult for some. "It would affect a lot of people in different ways. It might be hard to do," said rider Barbara Wilson.

A few Greenville residents noted the irony that they've lost both a post office and the bus they need to get to the next closest post office. Several attendees said they felt Greenville was being unfairly targeted by Coach USA, noting that there are plenty of buses on the No. 10 line, which connects Journal Square with Bayonne. "This is just economic segregation," said Angela Felder, a teacher's assistant.

Red & Tan officials vehemently deny the claim. "What it has to do with is economics, passenger counts and rising costs," said Red & Tan District General Manager John Emberson.

Red & Tan did not send a representative to the meeting, despite confirming that it would. Emberson said the representative was "tied up in reinstituting the 99 line and making sure service levels were done satisfactorily."

Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy said his office has been meeting with NJ Transit to work out alternative service for the canceled lines. The mayor has also approached New York and New Jersey transportation officials. In the meantime, the mayor's office asked riders to register detailed complaints concerning Red & Tan's service online at jerseycitynj.gov (click on Online Help Center), by phone at (201) 547-4900 or by mail at City of Jersey City, 280 Grove St., Jersey City, NJ 07302.

In addition, some residents are circulating petitions and a follow-up meeting is scheduled for Jan. 28 at Monumental Baptist Church at 7 p.m.


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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #19 on: 01-12-2008, 12:36am »
No. 99 bus will get a one-month reprieve

by N. Clark Judd

Friday January 11, 2008, 3:05 PM

The No. 99 bus, which was slated to stop running Sunday, will continue to operate in Jersey City until Feb. 17, said a bus company official.

John Emberson, an official with Coach USA, which owns No. 99 operator Red & Tan in Hudson County, called The Jersey Journal to announce that NJ Transit had just offered to subsidize the route for another 30 days.

Emberson said the decision had been reached after a 20-minute phone conversation with NJ Transit officials earlier this afternoon.

Emberson said NJ Transit will be using the time to get more data on the line's ridership.

"I think they want to take a closer look at it and figure out what they're going to do with it after that," Emberson said. "They want to study it during that time period."

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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #18 on: 01-11-2008, 10:30pm »
I can't count the times that I have waited inordinate amounts of time for a bus only to have 1 show up with another maybe 2 blocks behind it. That to me suggests mismanagement.


amen.  ridership would be higher if people could rely on a bus that's going to be relatively on schedule.  It's galling to see that all-too-frequent empty second bus closely tailing the ridiculously late and crowded first one.   For comic relief, however, you can call NJ
Transit's complaint line, which will advise you to "get the bus number." Of the bus that never showed up. 

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Need mass transit, and need it now
« Reply #17 on: 01-11-2008, 01:35pm »
JJ editorial:



Need mass transit, and need it now
Wednesday, January 09, 2008

Mass Transit in Hudson County is failing.

Yes, the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Transit system is expanding, and the PATH line rail, despite overcrowding and a need for modernization, is a better alternative for river-crossing commuters than the bridges and tunnels.

The HBLRT provides daily transportation for waterfront communities. PATH is designed for commuters. Both are for suburban commuters and those who see Hudson County as a bedroom rather than a community.

It is essential that the county has a transportation system that allows its citizenry to travel within its borders in an affordable and timely manner. Think of all the great metropolitan centers of the world and none would survive without effective mass transit.

This county has bus routes that are deteriorating or being eliminated. The No. 4 bus through Jersey City's Greenville to the waterfront is expected to be shut down. Next Wednesday, service on the Red and Tan No. 16 and No. 99 is expected to end. Riders complain about poor service, late buses, or vehicles that never show up. Bus operators blame falling ridership, but the real culprit is rising fuel costs.

Perhaps it is time for a Hudson County Transit Authority, an agency that would provide a regional approach to mass transit that NJ Transit cannot seem to offer. In some ways, the county administration of Executive Tom DeGise is already leaning in that direction.

When Bayonne and Christ Hospital announced they were eliminating their bus service for the disabled and elderly, Hudson County Transcend picked up the service. DeGise supports bus links to the Light Rail. He has provided a funding source for the county's Open Space Trust and could follow the same formula for a regional transit authority, once it gets off the ground. Starting from scratch, such an agency could select fuel-efficient, clean vehicles, possibly natural gas and even electricity.

Despite the eventual criticism of more bureaucracy and patronage, the benefit would be a mass transit network that served residents with routes within this county. This county cannot keep waiting for the state, or market forces, to help those in Hudson who make the most use of - and have the most need for - public transportation.

This newspaper is now asking that the county research the feasibility of a transit authority and possible business model that would work.

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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #16 on: 01-10-2008, 03:07pm »

Why they have chosen to stay away from the southern end of JC is not known to me.


I'll see nikki's un-PC card and raise her: like NYC cab drivers, dollar-van drivers and their bosses do a cost-benefit analysis when selecting their route, part of the calculus of which is the high potential for crime and damage, in the form of destruction of property, vandalism, and threat of physical violence or robbery, both to the driver and to other passengers, also a liability concern.

Basically, the same reason Danny Glover has a harder time hailing a cab in NYC is (at least part of) the reason why dollar vans stay away from Greenville. Doesn't make it any less wrong, but it's at least a partial answer to your question.

All cynicism aside, it makes living in this City and on this planet much better knowing there are folks like you who care about people.


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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #15 on: 01-10-2008, 02:18pm »
Do downtown developments have shuttle buses? Maybe? I've never worked for a JC company so i would have no idea. Aren't there certain housing complexes, like Dixon Mills?

Offhand, I know that Dixon Mills, Port Liberté and the Beacon have shuttle bus service.

Meanwhile, I made a note of the dollar vans I saw on lower Newark Av. this morning. The operators were listed as "Fuji Transport" and "Fuji Express", both of Fairview, NJ, and "J&T Trans." (no location listed). Someone from the city should contact them.


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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #14 on: 01-10-2008, 01:56pm »
I was also trying to think of other sources of temporary transportation, such as church vans. Maybe a donation can be collected for fuel costs and churchs, other civic association? could donate buses, etc.

I mean I understand that all of this needs to be coordinated, but this is a start.

Do downtown developments have shuttle buses? Maybe? I've never worked for a JC company so i would have no idea. Aren't there certain housing complexes, like Dixon Mills?
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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #13 on: 01-10-2008, 07:53am »
Nikki,

This is great advice. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

A note on dollar vans - They are not regulated by the City in any way. They are regulated by the state and operate like taxis do. So they are free to swoop in any where they want. Why they have chosen to stay away from the southern end of JC is not known to me.
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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #12 on: 01-10-2008, 06:53am »
OK Thebes - I am not working on a lot of sleep so some of what I'm saying may be nonsensical and rambling.  First of all this discussion is reminiscent of a conversation that I had with my father about East Flatbush Brooklyn in the 1970s.  When the neighborhood started transitioning, there was a huge decline in city services so you can read between the lines there...

We lived in Brooklyn when I was younger and there were dollar vans that used to run along the major routes like Utica Avenue.  The guys that ran them were independent operators and they were running without any transportation license but they got people where they needed to go.  Maybe you could get a few resourceful people to do this and have the city turn a blind eye to it a they do with many other things.

An absurd idea would be to reach out to ZipCar and have them co-sign on donating some cars for a few days.  You’d probably need to have city aides or approved people driving and get it on TV.  That’s all people care about.  No offense but no one reads the JJ so many people probably don’t even know this is going on.  ZipCar will get their angel wings and people will question why the city can’t step in to help with this situation.

In terms of what we can do, I think that the state has an obligation to set up a route for senior/disabled riders.  I can't remember they name of the program but I've seen the jitney size buses in other areas of the state such as New Brunswick and S. Brunswick.  I think that someone needs to put some pressure on the state because I'm fairly sure that there are a lot of older residents in that area.  What I’m about to say is going to be totally Un-PC but I’m just going to let it fly.  We’re in a city that actively courts the Black vote.  The mayor is currently swinging from Obama’s ball sack.  I’d get an older Black woman definitely a senior citizen – not a young mom, not someone in school - and I’d have her on every local TV channel in her best Sunday outfit saying how she can’t even (go buy groceries, make it to get her dialysis appointment, walk to the newer and much farther bus stop without her bursitis bother her, oh yeah and its winter… you get the point) 

I did participate in a van pool program briefly when I was commuting from CNJ to NYC.  The state provided a van for our group and we split the costs of expenses (gas, tolls, parking) It was a set amount each month.  The key with doing something like this is taken the applications and setting up the groups.  Unfortunately I'm so jaded by this city that my initial concerns are around who I would jump in a van with.  But if you can do it there are some good forms here http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/commuter/rideshare/  Maybe you could work with the state to get some vans for this and have the city offer up a parking space or parking vouchers to help defray costs for riders.

To NONs point,  I think that you'd be hard pressed to find residents downtown or elsewhere in the city that would be willing to open their cars up to strangers to drive people through one of the more high crime areas of the city.  Where I would be wiling to volunteer is to assist with senior citizens that need a ride to run some errands on the weekend. But letting strangers in my car on a daily basis is not going to happen.  And that begs another question. 
 
So to sum up my ramblings:
1.   Let Dollar Vans service the routes
2.   Aggressive PR campaign to bring this issue to a wider audience
3.   Approach the state about setting up a van pool program for the city with the city offering up parking vouchers to help defray costs

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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #11 on: 01-10-2008, 02:59am »

Do you think downtown people with cars would be willing to help?


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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #10 on: 01-09-2008, 11:40pm »
I just came from the Council meeting tonight and things are BAD. People are truly beside themselves. I mean think about it.

1) Things are looking grim for Greenville Hospital.

2) The post Office on Bergen has been closed down.

3) Now bus lines are shutting down.

People are very frustrated. They don't want to wait around while a plan is formulated. They want action. They want to be able to get to work so they don't lose money and the source of their families income. You've got seniors who have a hard time getting around as well as parents with small children.

So what can we do? What would be your creative solution??? I'm seriously asking.

The Jitneys may step in, but in all reality they are going to cause a financial hardship for most. The buses are far cheaper. These are people that would cringe with having to part with $20. This is A LOT of money for them. Life is stark and this City is handing them blow after blow.

How do they car pool? How do you do massive car pooling for a period of several months while a better plan is being formulated? I am sure it can be staged at a local community center.

Do you think downtown people with cars would be willing to help? Maybe a donation fund could be set up toward shuttle service? Remember i am thinking short term until bus service can be restored in some form.

I'm always lived in rural areas so the car pooling thing is foreign to me. Any ideas? What would you be willing to do to help?
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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #9 on: 01-07-2008, 04:31pm »
What about bus 81 mentioned in the article?  That's Jersey Transit, and it says it serves Lafayette/Greenville to Exchange.  Don't get me wrong--our bus lines suck up here, too.  I gave up on the 87 to Journal Square for the same 20 minute waits (and lost 10 pounds in the process!)  The jitney's are the bomb--I never have to wait more than three minutes for one at Grove.

I thought things were better with the light rail.  We feel like we got hozed up here a bit on that account, since there's only one, and the elevator to the light rail to the PATH takes, oh, 400 hours.

I don't know what anyone could do if the ridership truly isn't enough--someone should actively seek the accuracy of that against other lines.

Why do the jitney's not service Greenville?

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Re: Greenville bus routes being eliminated
« Reply #9 on: 01-07-2008, 04:31pm »