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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #15 on: 02-07-2014, 07:10pm »
Osborne firmly against it.  In the HCA Facebook group:  "I will lay across a rail road track to prevent this from happening in Ward E."

And this on twitter:  https://twitter.com/candiceosborne/status/431914803683422208
But what if the casino made artisanal cupcakes and served juice smoothies? I bet she'd sing a different tune then.

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #14 on: 02-07-2014, 07:00pm »
Give me a good reason other than sanctimonious bleating.

And you are quite wrong here. I am not making a moral argument. The individual choice to gamble is just that. My argument is based on whether or not it is a good investment for Jersey City. It isn't, for many reasons.
Sanctimonious bleater.

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #13 on: 02-07-2014, 06:01pm »
:rofl:
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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #12 on: 02-07-2014, 05:59pm »
Osborne firmly against it.  In the HCA Facebook group:  "I will lay across a rail road track to prevent this from happening in Ward E."

And this on twitter:  https://twitter.com/candiceosborne/status/431914803683422208

She will lay what?

Politicians never lie.

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #11 on: 02-07-2014, 05:55pm »
Give me a good reason other than sanctimonious bleating. And poor returns aren't a given -- that's a product of negotiation with the local government.


Sanctimonious bleating? You think I am basing my argument on moral superiority?

The benefits of casinos primarily go to corporate.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/11/atlantic-city-casinos-money-squandered/2412791/

The actual jobs created are not all that high paying, they are like hotel service-level jobs, mostly.

The problems it can introduce to communities have been studied. Particularly when they are situated next to low-income neighborhoods, they can exacerbate social problems like gambling addiction, drug use, and crime.

Hey, I got an idea, why don't we have a dog track, too?

Why don't you give me a good idea as to why we should invite an industry like casino gambling into Jersey City?
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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #10 on: 02-07-2014, 05:52pm »
Osborne firmly against it.  In the HCA Facebook group:  "I will lay across a rail road track to prevent this from happening in Ward E."

And this on twitter:  https://twitter.com/candiceosborne/status/431914803683422208

She will lay what?

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #9 on: 02-07-2014, 05:47pm »
Give me a good reason other than sanctimonious bleating. And poor returns aren't a given – that's a product of negotiation with the local government.

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #8 on: 02-07-2014, 05:44pm »
I don't know, at first glance it seems like a stupid idea – but wouldn't it fit right in near Port Liberté and Liberty National Golf Club? That's the aesthetic they're going for over there anyway. I say wedge it between the Turnpike extension and the golf course, near Chapel Ave., or Pole Position, or maybe the industrial area near Liberty Park Café. Nice views of the park, harbor and golf course, easy access to a highway, and nowhere near where anyone actually lives.

You mean maybe on the National Guard plot of land, which is up for sale, and is right next to Caven Point sports fields?!!! Where all the high school teams play? Not to mention younger leagues? Um, no.

Casinos offer poor returns to the communities they are sited in.

Better return would be to focus on high-tech jobs, if the point is to benefit the city.

But this is not to benefit the city, this is to grab campaign dollars from the gambling industry in the fight to see who will replace Christie as governor.
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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #7 on: 02-07-2014, 05:41pm »
"...in Ward E."
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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #6 on: 02-07-2014, 05:40pm »
Osborne firmly against it.  In the HCA Facebook group:  "I will lay across a rail road track to prevent this from happening in Ward E."

And this on twitter:  https://twitter.com/candiceosborne/status/431914803683422208

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #5 on: 02-07-2014, 05:37pm »
I don't know, at first glance it seems like a stupid idea – but wouldn't it fit right in near Port Liberté and Liberty National Golf Club? That's the aesthetic they're going for over there anyway. I say wedge it between the Turnpike extension and the golf course, near Chapel Ave., or Pole Position, or maybe the industrial area near Liberty Park Café. Nice views of the park, harbor and golf course, easy access to a highway, and nowhere near where anyone actually lives.

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Re: Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #4 on: 02-07-2014, 03:02pm »
I know I said this elsewhere, but if this is going to be pursued, as part of their JC rebranding effort, City Hall should consider going with one of the following slogans.

Jersey City: We Take Our Ten Percent Off the Top!

or maybe

Jersey City: We Run a Legitimate Business Here
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Re: Re: The Fulop Agenda
« Reply #3 on: 02-07-2014, 02:14pm »
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2014/02/fulop_supports_sweeneys_casino_idea.html

Say it ain't so Steve. This idea sucks.


I have to say I agree. It seems no one can with the governor's seat without the support of organized crime **cough cough** I mean the casinos.

Christie okayed online gambling; now there are online gambling ads throughout the PATH system. Why? Because gambling.

Christie pushed for a PATH extension to Newark Airport, to leverage United Airlines to provide flights in and out of Atlantic City. Why? Because gambling.

Now Sweeney and Fulop are vying for Christie's seat, they will see who can become coziest with the casino crowd.

A crappy, crappy idea. I don't want casinos in Jersey City.
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Re: Re: The Fulop Agenda
« Reply #2 on: 02-07-2014, 02:11pm »
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2014/02/fulop_supports_sweeneys_casino_idea.html

Say it ain't so Steve. This idea sucks.


I can't believe I'm saying this but . . . I agree with Kindelan!
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Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
« Reply #1 on: 02-07-2014, 02:10pm »
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2014/02/fulop_supports_sweeneys_casino_idea.html

Say it ain't so Steve. This idea sucks.



Fulop supports Sweeney's casino idea
By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal
on February 07, 2014 at 1:15 PM
 
Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop has come out in support of a plan floated by Senate President Stephen Sweeney to put casinos in some of the state’s urban areas, including Jersey City.

Fulop and Sweeney are rumored to be eyeing the governor’s mansion in 2017. They recently had a brief brawl over a state measure revamping the city’s pension system that political observers believed was an opening salvo in that race.

But on the casinos issue, they agree.

"A casino in Jersey City right outside of Manhattan would be a top performer economically in the country and a huge benefit for Jersey City for job creation, entertainment, and financially,” Fulop said in a statement from his office. “It is great that the Senate and Assembly will pursue options outside of Atlantic City."

Sweeney, D-Gloucester, told the Press of Atlantic City this week that Camden, Jersey City or Newark could benefit from a casino.

Gambling revenue out of Atlantic City has fallen in recent years, but Sweeney told the Press that nongambling revenue, such as income from restaurants and stores, has grown.
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